Chapter 504 Cooperation and Competition
Wang Yun said proudly, "What we do is cheap short fibers. Although the strength is a little weaker, it also has advantages. In addition to the functions of thermal conductivity and electromagnetic shielding, the chemical corrosion resistance of the Hua 100 carbon fiber we made has also been improved. I dare to say that the same type of asphalt-based carbon fiber of Dongli Company, even if it is stronger than us, it is not much stronger.
If you are a researcher in the 1970s, you will be embarrassed not to say that you are the first in the world. However, in the 1990s, it was clear that backward researchers would leave some room even when they spoke bold words. Wang Yun's mentality was very delicate. He was very confident, but he was worried that companies in developed countries would have more technical reserves than they imagined, and he did not have enough confidence to speak.
Su Cheng is not a real researcher. He didn't have time to understand such emotions, but he grasped the point and asked, "How do you get one-tenth of the cost? What is the cost of raw materials?
Wang Yun's mood was in the middle. He was stunned by him for a while. He shook his head on the other end of the phone and said, "I use ethylene cracking tar as raw material. From normal decompression steps to spinnerable asphalt, it's all made by our researchers themselves. There is not much cost. Even if it comes ."
Su Cheng suddenly said, "This is much cheaper than the carbon fiber of polyacrylonitrile."
"That's not true." Wang Yunle laughed out loud.
Polyacrylonitrile is also a difficult chemical raw material, which is a kind of chemical fiber, but it is much more difficult than ordinary chemical fiber. At least in China, it will take more than 10 years of development before this important raw material can be gradually mass-produced. In the production process of carbon fiber. Polyacrylonitrile is the main cost, often reaching more than two-thirds, if it is not asphalt-based carbon fiber. If you want to significantly reduce costs, the investment will increase several times.
It is estimated that it will take a long time to imitate the polyacrylonitrile.
Therefore, Chinese researchers who control costs are as natural as breathing. At the beginning of the project, they used asphalt-based carbon fiber. After making it, the application range of asphalt-based carbon fiber is not as good as that of polyacrylonitrile. But it always solves the problem of yes and no.
Sucheng doesn't care about the use range of asphalt-based carbon fiber. From the perspective of the development of later generations, it doesn't matter what the quality of carbon fiber is, as long as the price is right. There is nothing that can't be sold. The simplest analogy is that some of the big dogs who buy carbon fiber tennis rackets and carbon fiber bicycles know the tensile strength and modulus, and several know the difference in the strength and modulus of carbon fiber.
Bath in the joy of success for a moment. Su Cheng just thought of an important question. He said, "What about the output? How much can be produced per month?
"The current goal is ten tons a month." Wang Yun squeaked happily and said, "I guess it's a little difficult to sell 30,000 yen, and 20,000 yen is not difficult. One ton is 20 million yen. It is said that it is a little early to recover the laboratory investment, and it is estimated that there is no problem with the maintenance funds. In fact, if you invest a little more. The recycling will also be faster..."
This is the old routine of asking for funds. He opens his mouth while something is made. The effect will obviously be much better.
However, Su Cheng was shocked by 10 tons.
Can the output of 10 tons be counted as factory production?
The tofu workshop in the countryside makes more tofu in a month than this.
Of course, carbon fiber is a little more difficult to make than tofu... But it is not a little bit worse than the ideal production capacity of Sucheng.
"How long will it take to increase to 50 tons?" Su City made a difficult inquiry.
50 tons can't be said to be more. At this time, it is normal for a carbon fiber company to have an annual output of more than 100 tons in a factory, and the whole company has an annual output of thousands of tons to be regarded as a promising company. The carbon fiber factory with an annual output of 600 tons is probably slightly higher than the qualified line.
Such a standard, if used in steel and other industries, I'm afraid it's not even a small steel mill. Fortunately, the unit price of carbon fiber is high enough to maintain the scale of a high-tech company.
Wang Yun didn't expect that Su Cheng's vision had been on for ten or twenty years. Through the phone, he hummed for a long time and said, "The monthly output of 50 tons is actually our goal in the next stage, which is relatively difficult to achieve now. In fact, the price per ton of carbon fiber is more than $200,000, and there are still some funds for 10 tons of carbon fiber per month.
"Well, it's very good." Su Cheng suddenly woke up and praised, "I'm in a hurry. You did a good job. In fact, a vice president of Halliburton proposed to buy all the carbon fiber we produce. What do you think of this?
Wang Yun smiled silently and said, "Sousin, even if we start the factory, we will probably use 10 tons of carbon fiber per month. However, as long as you give me the funds, I don't care where the carbon fiber will go."
As soon as his voice fell, the other end of the phone shouted: "Wait! You don't care about me. Our shipping company paid for these carbon fibers.
"Isn't Xiao Yan?" Su Cheng didn't listen to the voice. When he heard the shipping company, he knew that it was Yan Xuecan.
"It's me, Su Dong, hello." Yan Xuecan smiled. He is a middle and high-level person in Dahua Industry, but because he is young, some of his capital is cute. After grabbing the microphone, he said, "Su Dong, our LNG ship is progressing smoothly. In terms of production technology, 95% of the problems have been solved. However, we still hope to localize as much as possible, such as compressed natural gas tanks. We hope to use our own carbon fiber, and this can also effectively reduce the cost of LNG ships. Therefore, we want to give priority to purchasing carbon fiber within the group..."
"Dahua Shipping Company and Dahua Laboratory are affiliated companies. It's okay to sell them first, but you can't sell them cheaply. Therefore, even if you want to reduce costs, you can only buy them at market prices." Su Cheng said with a deep murm. Although Dahua Shipping belongs to Sucheng, many of the outsourcing projects of Dahua Shipping are for factories affiliated to China Shipping. Even if 20% of the shares of these factories are transferred to Dahua Industry, they cannot be regarded as subordinate companies of Dahua Industry, but peripheral companies with low relevance. Therefore, it is impossible to make a state-owned enterprise-style allocation in Dahua Industry, that is, the pricing mechanism. It is all carried out with the market.
Yan Xuecan agreed and said, "As long as you don't sell all the carbon fiber to other companies, it's at the price of 200,000 US dollars per ton. This is also more cost-effective than our purchase from outside.
Sucheng said "um" and changed Wang Yun, asked him to continue to promote research and development, and promised an additional 10 million yuan, which ended the long international roaming and returned to Nazarbayev's office.
Timsey sat on the right side of the door and opened the door and saw him smiling like a rabbit. Accompanying Nazarbayev to chat in Russian. This alone impressed Sucheng. Timsi was not a professional Russian staff for most of his early years. It is used in Spanish-speaking countries, but his Russian is comparable to that of the locals, a foreign language that can chat and tell jokes. It is already high-end in China. It feels more or less wasteful to fall on Timsey, the vice president.
The elites of foreign oil companies are particularly impressed abroad. Companies like Halliburton have branches in more than 80 countries and regions and have operations in almost 200 countries around the world. They can be said to be a real multinational company. Compared with Dahua Industry, the least thing is that they can find employees who have mastered dozens of languages in the company. Not to mention Dahua Industry, China may not have it. Therefore. Dahua Industry has not been able to internationalize so far. It is even more difficult to make money from foreigners by tongguo commercial means.
"Has Su Dong made a decision?" After saying a word, Timsey turned to Sioux City.
Nazarbayev also took the opportunity to look over.
Su Cheng smiled and said, "Dahua Industry is ready to digest this batch of carbon fiber internally."
"What a pity." Timsey didn't seem to be surprised, and then said, "The production capacity of newly developed materials will not be too high in the early stage. However, Japanese companies have gone a long way in carbon fiber, and the speed of cost decline is also very fast. If the speed of conversion of production capacity is too slow, the original cost advantage may be strongly challenged.
"As long as Mr. President can understand." Su Cheng pretended not to understand his subtext.
Timsey is not as introverted as a Chinese. He smiled and said brazenly, "I'm worried about you. Low-cost high-tech products have always been a problem in promotion and sales. Now it seems to be the cost of advantages. If it is not used quickly, the advantages will soon disappear. Then, the previous technical investment has been wasted. The worst thing is that such technology will often attract technology investment, but it is often difficult for investment to produce the same effect.
I have to admit that Timsey's words are very insightful and belong to jīngyàn. Su Cheng has not just promised an investment of 10 million yuan. From the perspective of profit, it is useless to start a month or two. If foreign companies really have technical reserves, it will be enough for them to sort out and release them in two months. In the commercial competition, such technical reserves can often kill small companies, especially those small high-tech companies that rely on loans in the early stage. Before the products are produced, creditors can still feel at ease. Wait, but once the product is rejected by the market, the mood will be very different. Few people are willing to wait for another round of products to come out.
Although Dahua Industry will not be easily killed, if the carbon fiber project is not profitable for a long time, it is still possible to be put on the shelf. There are so many high and new technologies in the world that you can't hang yourself from a tree.
Therefore, taking advantage of the first few months, it is the common law of the high-tech industry to strive for profits.
Timsey grasped this and looked at Sue's expression and said, "Halle Burton's carbon fiber consumption is very large. If there is cheap carbon fiber, whether it is hundreds of tons or thousands of tons, we can all be surprised. Please ask Su Dong to consider it carefully.
"Of course, if the production capacity is improved, we will definitely give priority to Halliburton."
"In fact, Halliburton has a lot of things in terms of laboratory factoryization. Is Dahua Industry willing to cooperate with us in production?" Speaking of which, Timsey still wants to engage in technical cooperation. Dahua Industry is also a large company, and it is a Chinese company, otherwise the proposal to directly acquire the company may appear. For companies like Halliburton, at least $5 billion is used to acquire the company in the annual budget. It is not enough to use this money to fully acquire Dahua Industrial Co., Ltd. It is too much to buy an affiliated company or department. With Halliburton's strength, Timsey has a lot of confidence.
In front of President Nazarbayev, Sioux City is not ready to talk about it in detail. The vice president of Halliburton can't care whether to waste Nazarbayev's time. Sioux City can't consider it. He laughed and said, "We also believe in Halliburton's technology, but I know
Timsey doesn't matter. He talked about other topics with a smile. He just wanted to give Sioux City a vaccination before returning to China for a meeting, and told him that Halliburton was interested in this technology, so that other companies would not suddenly come out to intercept the beard.
After a few words, the two said goodbye to Nazarbayev knowingly, and His Excellency the President sent them to the door. Ayman had been depressed for a long time, and he was afraid that his father would continue to scold him, so he followed them out, walked on Tim West's side, and quickly talked about his beloved fashion story.
Su Cheng was so peaceful that he was suddenly stopped until he was about to leave.
The first answer was Ayman. She shouted with some surprise and embarrassment, "Weidry?"
It's not Weedry standing next to a Bentley car.
"Why are you here?" Aiman looked at Timsey nervously for fear that Wedley would come to plead guilty. At the front banquet, what was lost was Ayman's inside, and it was also the face of Wedley. With Ayman's understanding of Weedry, this guy is as face-saving as he is.
People in the fashion industry don't just play with face.
Wedley was also embarrassed, with the traditional British PoSE, and said, "I came with Mr. Ducat."
"Huh?"
"This is Mr. Ducat, the technical director of BP." Wedley introduced the old man in a three-piece suit at the rear of the car.
Timsey obviously knew Ducat, and his eyes narrowed like a cat.
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