Chapter 510 Patent Barriers

Wang Yun's eyebrows were twisted into Sichuan characters, and he said to himself, "I haven't heard that the carbon fiber research of any unit in China is close to the finished product."

"You really think that their technology is researched by yourself." Yang Ming looked at Wang Yun's innocent eyes, one head and two big, shook his head, pulled up and left, thinking: Are these researchers all fools? Such people can cheat 2,000 fools, and are they ready to cheat another 5,000?

Wang Yun didn't know why. He turned his head and looked back and said, "Didn't he say that there would be carbon fiber technology soon? We are always tracking the progress of carbon fiber in countries around the world. Yesterday, we held a meeting to announce that there was no movement in the documents and periodicals of the Patent Office... Is it really dark under the light? Let me think about it. For those who make carbon fiber in China, the research institute under the Petroleum Corporation is counted, and the research institute under Sinopec is counted as one. CNOOC has nothing to say. In addition, in the past, the research institute under the Ministry of Coal also made carbon fiber, and the research institute under the Ministry of Textiles has long been there. These research institutes are separate, and the funds are not enough..."

He said as he walked, but Yang Ming laughed angrily.

Seeing that there were also people in semi-old and new suits around Su Cheng, Yang Ming grabbed Wang Yun and said, "The cars these people are for foreign affairs. The young people who just spoke just looked at the investment promotion, so they are likely to come to Su Dong for technology. Pay attention when you talk."

"You mean, these people are from the government?"

"That's probably."

"The government is also interested in our technology?"

"Maybe."

Wang Yun frowned and asked, "Give me the money?"

"Ah? Give me some." Yang Ming said absent-mindedly.

Wang Yun shook his head: "That's not okay. How much money does the government have now? I give less. What should I do to subsidize interns and pay my assistants? The price of asphalt spinning depends on who it compares with. The electricity bill is tens of thousands of yuan a month.

Yang Ming was stunned and said dumbly, "I thought you would agree, and I have learned to calculate emotions."

"In the research institute, I always spend one yuan in half. Can it not count? Technology transfer is charged per share. If there are too many copies transferred, it will be worthless.

Yang Ming laughed and wanted to tell them again. The two had arrived at Su Cheng, so he had to stand aside and watch Su Cheng introduce each other.

The new government officials are indeed from several companies. The provincial and municipal investment promotion offices in Jiangsu and Zhejiang have come. The lobby are mainly from them. The foreign affairs office came to cover the investment office. After providing a layer of coat, they began to make soy sauce. Accompanied by Sucheng is a synthetic fiber research institute, numbered "826". Although not in detail, in China, this purely digital unit is not the military, but also the confidentiality unit of key departments.

Yang Ming suddenly became nervous and meditated in his heart: I'm not a crow's mouth, I'm not a crow's mouth...

The army is not only poor now, but also has a good appetite. There are so many enterprises in the army. Some make money and some don't make money. Those who make money make a lot of money. Those who don't make money desperately want policies, funds, and fight for the army's sunrise gold. They don't care about the research institute's units that can't make achievements immediately. Technologies such as carbon fiber are transferred If you remove a family price and get a discount, they can't afford it, but it won't be ambiguous to grab business at that time.

This kind of unit that neither cares nor understands the market is the most terrible. If he rots the market, he will show a pair of innocent big eyes to look at you.

Fortunately, everyone was reserved and did not stand in the hall to talk about business. Ducat and others quickly led the topic to the technical aspect and had a cordial conversation with Wang Yun.

Yang Ming turned around and went to the Information Bureau to find the information of 826.

Called Dong Feng, and Yang Ming rubbed his hands and stood downstairs of the Information Bureau waiting for the result. In addition to Sucheng, there are few senior executives of Dahua headquarters who are qualified to enter the Information Bureau, but there are a few high-level guys in branches other than Dahua headquarters.

The information bureau came and went in a hurry, but no one looked at Yang Ming, let alone take the initiative to say hello. It's not like the hustle and bustle of the headquarters or the calmness of Dahua Research Office.

After waiting for about a quarter of an hour, when Yang Ming was almost impatient, a girl from the information bureau came out of the building, handed him a sealed envelope, and then took the receipt and left.

Yang Ming reached out and dismantled it, but saw that there was only a piece of white paper in it, which said: the information is incomplete, and the subordinates are in the final assembly.

"Wow..." Yang Ming took a cold breath.

Although Dahua Information Bureau is an enterprise's information collection agency, there are always some ordinary information. Throwing back a blank piece of paper only shows that the level of 826 is high enough that all information except the code is confidential. The Dahua Information Bureau has always given up on such domestic units.

In China's system, there are two units with a high level of confidentiality, one is advanced and important, and the other is the high administrative level of research institutions. The products made by the local military region are advanced, and there is not necessarily a high level of confidentiality of the toilet of the Military Commission. The explanation of contacting the "master general assembly subordinates" at least shows that the background of 826 offices is deep.

"The Dragon Crossing the River." Yang Ming put the white paper in his pocket and was not in a hurry to go back. It has been so long. Is 826 powerful? Su Cheng should have known it long ago.

In fact, Director Lv of the Institute of Synthetic Fibers did not want to hide it from Su Cheng at all.

The director of this research institute, who looks like a university professor, was afraid of Su Cheng's misjudgment. First, he reported the number like a bandit in the world, and also specially explained: "Our research institute shoulders the heavy responsibility of the reform of the whole army's equipment. Before coming out, the leader of the final assembly earnestly entrusted

Su Cheng nodded frequently: "Well said, the new situation in the new era is really different. Well, let's go to the laboratory first."

After saying these two sentences, he said another sentence in English, so he took the lead and went to the laboratory.

Everyone swarmed in, and Director Lv couldn't figure out whether Su Cheng understood it. He wanted to ask in detail, but there were a ticket of foreigners around him, and he had to be patient.

This patience is two hours.

Wang Yun was ready and took everyone to visit several test laboratories of the Carbon Fiber Institute. Many important parameters had to be tested several times, and the time was delayed.

Foreign technicians from several companies even brought their own standard materials and used them on the test machine to determine that the value of the machine is correct.

Su Cheng also allowed them to operate. The suspect is the buyer. Carbon fiber has spent so much research cost, and it is always necessary to recycle part of it.

Until they were sleepy, Wang Yun took them to visit a few laboratories.

The speed is fast this time. Only the earliest preparation laboratory can enter the six selected laboratories, and the other five are looking at the windows. Even so, a group of people look at them very seriously.

Wang Yun pinched his watch and changed a group of people to lie on the window every two minutes. Three groups of people looked at it and left.

In this case, Director Lv can only hold back his energy. Like others, he can read as much as possible and record as much as possible, and there is no extra time to ask questions. As for how many things you can see, that's your personal level.

Despite this, Ducat was also very satisfied. After watching the six laboratories, without waiting for others to speak, he knocked on the civilized stick and asked, "I noticed that the raw materials used by Dahua in the preparation of intermediate phase asphalt had a high degree of aroma. Is this conscious?"

Wang Yun replied, "It's conscious."

"Oh? What is the principle of this?" Ducat is the senior management of the technology flow. Before coming, he carefully confirmed the carbon fiber technology mastered by BP and determined that he had no understanding of this.

Wang Yun seems to have an open explanation: "In the raw material, when the interaction between the large π bond conjugate architecture is relatively large, it may cause the softening point to rise, the viscosity to increase, and it is not easy to spin. Therefore, we require that the raw materials for the preparation of intermediate phase asphalt must contain a certain amount of hydrogen, that is to say, the structure needs to contain a certain amount of cycloalkyl and fat-based side chains.

As soon as he finished speaking, someone asked, "How much is a certain amount of hydrogen?"

"This is the experimental secret." Wang Yun nodded..

The foreign affairs official of his colleague frowned and said, "Since it is an experimental secret, how can I explain it in front of foreigners..."

"Regarding this research, we have applied for a patent." Wang Yun interrupted Director Lu, but his smile was owed.

"Ah..." There was a sigh of disappointment around.

Material data are tested frequently, and material tests are often expensive. If you are unlucky, it will take several months, and it is not surprising to spend millions of dollars. With the impact of patents, the cost of time and money will be greater.

However, such a small key point, if you buy it directly, the other party may not be able to bid for millions of dollars.

Most of the businessmen present immediately lost interest in it.

Ducat communicated with the deputy around him for a moment, and then said, "If the interaction between the conjugation architectures is maintained at the same level, just quantitative hydrogen, cycloalkyl and adipose-based side chains are probably not enough."

"What you said." Wang Yun had been authorized for a long time. He raised his thumb and said, "There are certain requirements for quinoline insoluble substances, heterocyclic compounds containing nitrogen, oxygen and sulfur, metal organic compounds and complexes, and active components."

"Do you have a complete theory about this?" Ducat showed a surprised expression. For so many compounds, if only one of them is measured, the relationship between them is troublesome. The complexity of chemical research also lies in this. The relationship between compounds that affect the final performance of the product should be analyzed according to mathematics. For each more compound, hundreds of possibilities need to be added. For modern industry, experiments without theoretical guidance can be said to be huge, and even BP can't afford it.

Wang Yun did not answer directly, but smiled and said, "The current conclusion proves to be valid."

The validity of the conclusion does not prove the integrity of the theory.

Ducat also knew that he couldn't ask anything, and he was a little disappointed.

At this time, Timsey, who came from afar, stood up. He didn't know much about technology, so he didn't move forward. Until now, he walked to the front desk and said with a smile, "Dong Su, can we visit the production factory of Dahua Industry now?"

As soon as this was said, everyone's eyes were shining.

Director Lu licked his lips and leaned forward.

Although 826 are synthetic fiber research institutes, there are so many types of synthetic fibers that they can't provide enough funds to continue research on carbon fiber. Therefore, getting a cheap carbon fiber production line is his greatest expectation.

The production factory of Dahua Industry is his first goal, which is more important than the laboratory.

The industrial production and laboratory production of any kind of industrial material are two different. The most important difference lies in output and cost. Steel is an extreme example. A brand-new alloy material, its laboratory parameters are only a reference, and the important thing is how to produce it on a large scale. Even the same kind of steel, because of the different ways of mass production, ultimately determines the different fates of the two companies.

Carbon fiber is still a high-tech material. With the word "high-tech", it means that its output will not be too high. Nevertheless, the mode of industrial production is still different.

The focus of Dahua Industry's cheap carbon fiber is its cheapness. In the eyes of Ducat and others, its technical parameters can only be said to be poor and acceptable. However, the significance of such an acceptable material with one-tenth of the cost is completely different.

What foreign manufacturers want to see most is how Dahua Industry controls costs.

Even if you can't buy the technology of Dahua Industry and visit their industrial production methods, you may get some inspiration.

With this idea in mind, most of the visiting executives of the companies have technical deputy. Even a senior executive with a technical background like Ducat is worried about the aging of his knowledge and brings new people around him.

Wang Yun hesitated a little, and the foreign businessmen said repeatedly, "The factory must be seen."

"If you don't look at the factory, the judgment is inaccurate."

"Go now."

Director Lv suddenly became nervous. He was indignant that his treasure was stained by others. He choked and said, "Sudong, it's better to keep the technology confidential. Now everyone knows the situation of carbon fiber. If you just buy carbon fiber, that's enough."

Su Cheng said "Oh" from the flow of kindness.

Ducat smiled and said, "What Su Dong is going to sell is not a finished product of carbon fiber, right?"

Su Cheng nodded and smiled, "No."

"Is Su Dong interested in selling technology?" Timsey asked

"Let's focus on patent authorization." Su Cheng smiled.

"Since it involves production technology, please let us visit the factory of Dahua Industry."

Su Cheng shook his head at this time and said, "Dahua Industry is only ready to authorize three enterprises, so there is no need for a collective visit."

A group of people suddenly.

Ducat was the most rich, and he didn't stumble at all. He asked, "How to determine the price?"

"Calculate according to the output, 30 dollars per kilogram." Su Cheng was smiling.

Ducat frowned and said, "Isn't that higher than the production cost of carbon fiber?"

"But it's still profitable." Su Cheng smiled and said, "Although it is a cheap short fiber, it should be able to sell it at a quarter of the price of ordinary fiber in the early stage."

Wang Yun next to

pretended to take off his glasses to wipe them, and he was very excited. In order to use the cheapest raw materials and the cheapest production process to squeeze out an acceptable carbon fiber, he did paper research for several years, and then completed the task of testing with nearly 20 project teams and 2,000 interns and assistants. In this process, the number of patents obtained by Dahua Industrial Carbon Fiber Research Institute has exceeded 100. No matter in which country, this is a large number of patents, and there is no doubt that it constitutes a patent barrier.

Now, there can always be some gains.

The Carbon Fiber Research Institute is no longer a research institute for eating rice.

Wang Yun looked at the foreigners in front of him, just like a group of fat sheep.

Ducat and others immediately began to bargain.

The proposal of patent buyout and patent transfer was quickly rejected by Sucheng, and the derivative rights of patents were also restricted,

The Lion in Sucheng also opened its mouth to protect its own patent barriers. Under the condition that the company's interests are not damaged, the price of the patent authorization soon talked about $12,000 per ton, that is, 12 yuan per kilogram.

This number is neither high nor low. In terms of the annual output of 500 tons, the annual patent expenditure is only 6 million US dollars, which is only a dime for large companies. However, if the quantity is more, it will be terrible. The output of 5,000 tons represents 60 million US dollars of patent money, and 50,000 tons of 5,000 tons of patent money of 600 million US dollars.

For industrial production, as long as the production capacity goes up, 50,000 tons is nothing. Now Boeing has begun to use carbon fiber as the tail of an aircraft. If the price of carbon fiber is cheap enough, the world's aviation industry alone can swallow tens of thousands of tons of carbon fiber. The prospect of the automobile industry is even more terrible. Although it is difficult to say that it takes more youth to make a car body with carbon fiber, the consumption of carbon fiber can be met.

Determineing a contract with continuity is extremely important for foreign companies.

Some people even immediately proposed a 15-year near-lifetime contract.

The negotiation lasted for more than three hours. In addition to carbon fiber contracts, there are also some tripartite contracts such as the purchase of equipment.

After talking about the details, it was already evening. Su Cheng got up and invited everyone to dinner. Director Lv then came over and said with a smile, "Su Dong, look at the carbon fiber technology. Can you also transfer some to us?"

"Oh, do you also want to buy a patent license? Let's just trade in RMB. Well, how about the current price? There is a generous discount in Sucheng. Foreign exchange in 1993 is still very valuable, and trading in RMB itself is a discount.

Director Lv smiled and said, "We don't need patent authorization, just to make something for the army. You teach us how to do it. We promise that the products will not flow into the market. What do you think?"

Carbon fiber is also a hot commodity in China, and the army is also the target user of Su City. If 826 offices sell carbon fiber to the army, the latter will also pay 826 offices.

Unlike ordinary factories, carbon fiber, a small factory, is obviously very suitable for 826 factories in transition.

Su Cheng didn't care about Director Lv's calculation and said with a smile, "Well, visit the factory first. Tomorrow morning, wait until you visit Dahua's factory before you decide.

Without a promise, Director Lv was not surprised. He smiled proudly and said, "Then decide after visiting the factory tomorrow. By the way, does Su Dong have time in the evening? A few friends want to meet you.

"Then let's have dinner together at the Intercontinental Hotel in Huacheng." Su Cheng turned around and greeted the others again.

Director Lu looked at his back and "hummed" gently.

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