Chapter 585 Sharp Questions
"Then let's talk about it." Minister Xu's eyes flashed and he made up his mind to drive Su Cheng out of the exhibition group.
Su Cheng was very familiar with such eyes and was also inexplicable. He thought to himself: If I had known it, I would have simply not come. But... Now that I'm here, I can't walk away in frustration.
In front of Mr. Fei, the heads of various companies also surged up **. Such an opportunity to show his face was rare. Everyone became nervous and silently prepared for the next speech.
In a moment, the director of the Technical Department of the Ministry of Railways stood up and said with a smile, "Why don't I throw bricks for us to attract jade."
"A short, clear and concise explanation of the situation is enough." Minister Xu reminded: "If the details are too specific, it is best reflected in the report of each unit."
There are always dozens of business leaders present here. If it's a long discussion, I'm afraid there won't be enough time in an afternoon.
The director of the Ministry of Railways nodded to express his understanding, and then said, "There are two projects that the Ministry of Railways is going to be used for international exhibitions. One is the comprehensive automated marshalling station that Zhengzhou North Station has been put into use at present. This is a system project, which can not only reflect the technicality of machinery Modernization. The second is the JBC-1 transistor relay protection test bench developed by the hydropower section of the Hang*zhou Railway Branch of the Ministry of Railways. The performance of the test bench comprehensively exceeds that of imported products of the same grade in China, and it is a railway equipment that is expected to get orders.
Minister Xu commented politely, "The Ministry of Railways is well prepared."
In the Ministry of Railways in 1994, the salary was several times that of the national civil servants, and the power was also unusually large. It casually pulled out a director, but it was no worse than the ordinary deputy minister. On the other hand, the ministries and commissions of the State Council and state enterprises, even central enterprises, are very different. As members of the ministries and commissions, Minister Xu cannot treat state-owned enterprises of the Ministry of Machinery and Industry as casually.
The Ministry of Railways participated in the exhibition, which is one of the members of the organization itself, and the minister is not allowed to talk. The director's active introduction was still because of Mr. Fei.
Deputy Director Lu, the head of the regiment in charge of the group, naturally had nothing to say. He only said, "I'm looking forward to the performance of the Ministry of Railways in this exhibition. In my impression, the automated marshalling station of Zheng *zhou North Station is a key project of the Eighth Five-Year Plan, which is completed
The director of the Ministry of Railways smiled easily and said, "We also want to take back two orders. The cost of developing new technologies is very high. If we don't want to recover a little, it will be difficult to develop in the future."
Requiring for money and policy is the basic skill of state-owned enterprise cadres. State-owned enterprise cadres who can't take advantage of all opportunities to ask for money and policy will probably fall into a vast number of middle-level positions. Taking the opportunity of Mr. Fei's presence, the director of the technical department took the opportunity to complain.
Deputy Director Lu smiled and seemed to feel that the amount of information was enough. He turned his head and asked, "Mr. Fei, shall we continue to talk about the next project?"
"No hurry." Mr. Fei's back bone was straight, his head turned back slightly, and said, "In Ping, come and ask."
"Yes." Yin Ping is the deputy director of the Fei Office and the staff who often accompanies Fei Lao. He is involved in the science and technology economy and knows many state-owned enterprises.
However, it is a very serious matter to ask on behalf of Mr. Fei. There is no smile on Yin Ping's face, which is the opposite of Mr. Fei's spring breeze. He sat forward, bowed his head and twisted out the documents submitted earlier by the Ministry of Railways, and said, "Since it is a project to participate in international exhibitions, what is the current international level of this technology?"
This question is so direct that the director of the Ministry of Railways is a little confused. Because the case is too simple, [Sunday] There are bullet-loaded Shinkansen trains in 64 years. What is the world of automated marshalling stations in the 1990s? It can only be said that this is a small step in the world, but it is a big step for the [Middle] country. After all, the industrial base of the [Middle] country is weak and the country is vast. At present, the responsibility of the railway is not to seek new and good, but takes coverage and safety as the main indicator. With a little understanding, it is understandable for the Ministry of Railways to regard it as an exhibition project.
However, Yin Ping is obviously not asking questions from a realistic perspective, not an understanding perspective.
Under the warm gaze of Mr. Fei, the director of the Ministry of Railways struggled for a moment and replied with difficulty: "In the world, the transistor relay protection test bench is still relatively novel. Automated marshalling stations are not new, but at present, there are no more than 10 countries that can build it independently.
"So do you expect that many countries will come up with the technology of automated marshalling stations to participate in the exhibition?" Yin Ping's speech is not slow, and his voice is penetrating.
The director of the Ministry of Railways hurriedly said, "There will not be so many enterprises participating in the exhibition with automated marshalling stations..."
"Because they have better technology?" Yin Ping interrupted him rudely. He said something.
The director of the Ministry of Railways was stunned: What is this? Asking questions and digging traps?
Yin Ping, who always looked down at the document, raised his neck and asked, "Isn't that the case?"
This mean question makes the other party neither answer nor answer. It can only be said euphemistically: "The automated marshalling station is indeed not the latest technology, but there is still a chance to get an order."
Yin Ping looked down at the document again and said, "So, do you expect the automated marshalling station to make money by participating in the French equipment exhibition?"
"Can."
"How much can I earn?"
"This... depends on the price and quantity of the order..."
"Let's talk about the profit ratio."
After thinking about it, the director of the Ministry of Railways said an imaginary number: "The profit is about 10%."
"Have you calculated the manpower expenditure?" Yin Ping is familiar with the drawbacks of state-owned enterprises. When showing profitability, they often ignore labor and other expenses. On the other hand, when wailing the cost, they often add labor to a very high level.
The Ministry of Railways is unavoidable, and the director said awkwardly, "Manpower expenditure is not covered."
Even Minister Xu of the Ministry of Machinery Industry can't help but hide his face.
Such a forced question, in front of so many state-owned enterprises, how humiliating it is.
However, Yin Ping did not mean to make the other party more relaxed, and asked, "The things are broken. What about after-sales maintenance? Do they pay for it, or do we pay for it?
[China] When buying foreign equipment, it is often necessary to prepare one-third of the money to exchange parts or ask the other party to send someone to guarantee the warranty. By the mid-1990s, this cost had been considered by agencies at all levels.
However, [China] Chinese people are often cheated by foreign enterprises, which does not mean that [China] Chinese enterprises can cheat foreigners in the same way. This is not only the gap in the level of industrial technology, but also the difference in judicial procedures and economic environment.
In order to compete with foreign enterprises to obtain orders, the Ministry of Railways has always operated after-sales service as an advantageous project, that is, the cost of parts and almost free maintenance costs.
And in the current context, it will be more embarrassing to tell the truth.
The director looked at Minister Xu for help and thought: Isn't what you said short and clear? Aren't you saying something concise? Which ear did you hear the short?
Minister Xu's skin is thick and rough, and he just pretends not to see it. He and the Ministry of Railways are not willing to offend each other, but they are not willing to make Fei Lao unhappy for the other party. Anyway, the latter is more important.
No one helped to speak. Fei Lao's eyes were so sharp.
The director of the Ministry of Railways had to answer directly, bowed his head and said, "The cost does not calculate the after-sales and maintenance costs."
"That is to say, you actually earn less than 10%?"
"Yes." Until the era of high-speed railways, the Ministry of Railways did not have the ability to build railways abroad and then make direct profits. The high-speed railway they built for Saudi Arabia is a famous huge loss project. The project to help build African countries is purely for politics. In terms of economy and market, both the Ministry of Railways and PetroChina are generally the best pitfalls.
In the international market, no matter which country's national enterprise is, it has always been the image of a clown. Unlike normal enterprises, profits do not depend on the profit between cost and selling price, but on subsidies and political resources.
The Ministry of Railways has long been proficient in shouting about the reserve price, and even making money at a loss. In the heart of the leader, as long as there are enough orders, it doesn't matter whether there is a profit or not. Compared with the so-called paid-in profit cloud in the year-end report, the export revenue figure is obviously more valuable.
It's a pity that it was broken.
Or Fei Lao and others didn't care about this before, but now they are serious.
But the cadres of state-owned enterprises present can't talk to Mr. Fei or his staff about whether they are serious or not. If Mr. Fei is serious, they have to be serious. No matter how wronged they are, it is useless.
A minute of silence is so long.
The Ministry of Railways has been hit hard, and the heads of other enterprises are not willing to show up, and the needle can be heard in the hall in an hour.
Mr. Fei didn't say anything, but looked at the crowd with his eyes, which had brought heavy pressure.
Minister Xu had to stand up and say, "Mr. Fang, tell me about the project of Wuzhong's exhibition."
Mr. Fang was originally sitting behind the door, rubbing his face, looking at the jokes of the Ministry of Railways. At first, he was called by his name, and his face seemed to drip water. He couldn't help scolding secretly: This stepmother is really different.
After squinting at the flat brain scoop, Mr. Fang stood up and said briefly as possible, "We are preparing a CNC 16-meter single-column mobile desktop lathe, which is the leading technology in China, and the profit is expected to be more than 50%."
"Domestic leading technology, what about international technology?" Yin Ping's problem is still generally sharp, as if he is peeled and boned with a knife.
"Internationally, it's probably the mainstream level."
"Do you have it?" Yin Ping pulled out a piece of paper from Wuzhong's folder and put it on the table. His index finger fell on it and turned it carelessly.
"The main part is at the international mainstream level."
"Only the main part has reached the international mainstream level. Are you confident to participate in the international exhibition?"
"Confidentence... there is still some." Mr. Fang looked at Mr. Fei and answered Yin Ping's question. He said very reluctantly that their CNC machine tool could only solve the problem of whether there was or not. At best, they changed the technology in the early 1980s and integrated some other technologies obtained from other channels. In fact, since the reform and opening up, there have been few state-owned enterprises that can do technology at ease, and there are very few equipment enterprises that can do technology at ease.
State-owned enterprises were on an all-round downward trend in the mid-1990s. This is an era of national impetuousness... More than 10% of bank deposit interest, more than 15% of bank loan interest rates, and 24% of inflation are all more than several times the so-called big inflation years in later generations. There are few such environments. The company can quietly accumulate technology.
If it hadn't been for the high value of the oil industry in later generations, if it hadn't been for the high threshold of the oil industry in later generations, and if it hadn't been for the high profits of the oil fields he had obtained, it would have been difficult for Sucheng not to pick up corn and throw sesame seeds, watermelons and Su Cheng looked on coldly. He could understand the confusion and chaos of state-owned enterprises, but he did not sympathize with the heads of these enterprises. It has the best policy of the [China] country, the most skilled workers in the [China] country, the most monopolistic market in the [China] country, and the financing cost is several times lower than that of private enterprises. It is not profitable. This is definitely not a question of whether it can be or not, but a question of willingness or not.
The heads of these state-owned enterprises always think about personal gains and losses, not enterprise gains and losses.
In the construction of the motherland and the struggle for socialism ** The past middle-aged crisis is not only reflected in these middle-aged and elderly state-owned enterprises, but also in these middle-aged and elderly state-owned enterprises.
After Mr. Fang sat down, Minister Xu ordered a few more names, but failed to be recognized. The person in charge of the fourth airline was refuted.
The atmosphere became more and more tense. Everyone was worried about being called up, but they knew that they could not avoid it. They were entangled in stretching out their heads or shrinking their heads, but Su Cheng was relaxed and tight. He could see that Minister Xu absolutely did not want to stand out.
However, for every extra point of the dead Taoist friend, Mr. Fei's face is ugly, and Minister Xu's heart is also a little cold.
The queen's child died, but there was no shortage of cannon fodder. Minister Xu nodded his child and said, "Mr. Gao, please introduce the project of Shougang."
Gao Gang also expected this and got up uneasily and said, "What Shougang took out this time is a yield strength of 280 of high-strength galvanized cold-rolled steel plate, which can be used for automobile production, which can significantly improve the life of the car. At present, our galvanized cold-rolled steel plate has been sold to FAW, SAIC and other enterprises, hoping to expand the sales of steel plate after participating in the exhibition..."
"The yield strength of 280 MPa, such a galvanized cold-rolled steel plate can only be regarded as a low-strength galvanized steel plate." Yin Ping didn't even look at the information this time. He pressed his hand on the folder of Shougang and said, "The production of galvanized cold-rolled steel plate should be profitable now. However, in order to be recognized or ordered at international exhibitions, the CIF price must be lower than the price of [Japan] Ben, South Korea, Brazil and other countries... As far as the current situation of Shougang is concerned, it is unlikely. Moreover, to participate in international exhibitions, we should focus on high-tech products..."
This is a real obstacle, and Gao Gang simply did not explain it.
Yin Ping didn't ask. He picked up the pen, wrote two sentences on the notebook in front of him, and turned his eyes to Minister Xu.
Minister Xu patrolled the crowd for a long time before he called out another name, but the result was the same. Yin Ping, whose language is as sharp as a knife, is like a butcher, cutting the other party's technology into several sections, losing the mystery of professional terms, leaving only a pile of second-rate and third-rate shadows floating.
Equipment manufacturing itself is an industry that needs to be accumulated and invested, but what is most lacking in the current [China] country is patience and capital. Finding the factors of innovation and technological progress from a bunch of rotten and established large state-owned enterprises is tantamount to seeking fish.
It will not be 10 years at the earliest before the machinery industry in China will restart and gain a place in the market at more cost.
At that time, they were not chasing the world market, but just hoping to recover the lost land in the domestic market.
Minister Xu named again.
Yin Ping dissected again.
Minister Xu continued to call the name.
Yin Ping continued to dissect.
When there are only a few enterprises left, Minister Xu can't go on. These are all large state-owned enterprises under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Machinery Industry. As the head of the newly split ministry, Minister Xu could not send them to the Tiger Mountain knowing that there were tigers in the mountain.
If this is really broken by Yin Ping, who eats people and doesn't spit out bones, those unyielding souls, I don't know what trouble they will make for the new ministry.
"Minister Xu?" Yin Ping couldn't stop and looked up to ask.
Minister Xu was arrogant and said, "Su Cheng, on behalf of Dahua Industry."
It doesn't matter whether it is public ownership or non-public ownership. The important thing is that the enterprises of the Ministry of Machinery Industry cannot be completely destroyed. They are also the capital of Minister Xu's life.
The leaders of the remaining nearly ten enterprises couldn't help sighing with relief.
Mr. Fei seemed to be in high spirits. He changed the template that he only heard and nodded with his fingers, "Didn't Dahua Industry say before that a marine steel plate had been developed? Is this better than Shougang's?
With this sentence, the director of the Ministry of Railways and Gao Gang of Shougang burst into tears: No wonder Yin Ping is Mr. Fei's staff. Both of them are simply the same kind of people, and neither of them is the one who saves face.
Minister Xu didn't want Shougang to be hit twice. He hurriedly said, "Mr. Fei, Dahua Industry is an oil-making enterprise and does not produce steel plates."
"Technology is technology, production is production. Dahua Industry has Dahua Shipping Industry and Dahua Laboratory, a research and development institution. It is feasible to only do technology without production. Yin Ping helped to explain that he was actually a little curious. Dahua Industry, which had just got the oil field in Azerbaijan, was not famous among the people, but it was deafening in the upper layer.
Minister Xu gathered the divine light in his eyes and looked at Su Cheng, hoping that he would "know to advance and retreat".
Unfortunately, Su Cheng had already made up his mind to make a bloody road today. How could he be humble? He ignored the vicious eyes of Minister Xu and Gao Gang. He got up and said, "Speaking of high-strength steel plates, we did have some by-products during the development of marine steel plates..." (To be continued